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An Interview with Joel Schut, Grand Rapids Youth Symphony Conductor

GRSMA was pleased to speak with conductor Joel Schut to assist in getting to know the new conductor of the Grand Rapids Youth Symphony. We hope that our followers will enjoy Joel's answers to our questions about his background and his plan to inspire the next generation of classical musicians.

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GRSMA: Where did you grow up, and what are your first memories of classical music?

 

JOEL SCHUT: I was born and grew up in Grand Rapids. My first memories of classical music were hearing the Grand Rapids Symphony on elementary school field trips. I was that balcony kid in rapt attention. I couldn't stop talking and thinking about it. I began piano in second grade, the only one of my siblings to stick it out the full year. In 5th grade I began violin and immediately fell in love with the sound, community, and experience of live orchestral music. I was a member of the inaugural Classical Orchestra and then joined the Grand Rapids Youth Symphony.

 

GRSMA: Tell us about your musical career and the path that brought you to your current role as conductor of the Grand Rapids Youth Symphony.

 

JS: I feel deeply grateful for a musical upbringing nourished in the Grand Rapids community. While no one in my family was a professional or amateur musician, my parents were supportive, or at least, I was able to convince them that music was my life's calling. I feel like I won the lottery studying violin first with Barb Hammond (former manager of GRYS) and then Diane McElfish Helle (GRS violinist). They both inspired me greatly and constantly raised the bar to be a better player, musician, and person. I hear their inspired voices sitting on my shoulders each day. Having fallen in love with both performance and teaching in high school, I earned a Bachelor's Degree in Violin Performance and Music Education from the University of Michigan. Upon graduation, I was awarded the Albert A. Stanley medal, the school's highest honor. During this degree, I served as a mentor with the Detroit Civic Orchestra and had the unique opportunity to step in as Music Director of the Livingston Symphony, a wonderful community orchestra just north of Ann Arbor. After graduating, I taught orchestra at Saline High School and continued performing as a violinist with the Flint Symphony and other regional orchestras. That year, a former GRYS alum, Michelle Ubels, contacted me saying friends in the Wayne State University School of Medicine wanted to play classical music again. Together we formed the Detroit Medical Orchestra, and I conducted their first season. Knowing I had an evolving passion for conducting, I moved to Colorado to complete a masters degree in Orchestral Conducting at CU-Boulder. After graduating, I returned to Michigan, teaching orchestra at North Farmington High School and then Okemos High School. During this time I performed regularly as a violinist with the Lansing Symphony and completed a DMA in Orchestral Conducting at Michigan State University. With a growing interest in collegiate teaching and teacher training, I served as Interim Director of Orchestras at the Crane School of Music SUNY Potsdam and then back to Colorado as Assistant Director of Orchestras at CU-Boulder. During this time I worked with the Denver Young Artist Orchestra and played regularly as a violinist with the Boulder Philharmonic. One global pandemic and three kids later, my wife and I were thrilled to accept the position of Director of Orchestras at Grand Valley State University and move to Grand Rapids. The chance to raise our kids near our families (people genetically obligated to say "yes" to help) and be a part of the West Michigan music community was a dream come true. Working as a substitute violinist with the extraordinary Grand Rapids Symphony, serving as conductor for the St. Cecilia Philharmonic Youth Orchestra, and now serving as Music Director and Conductor of the Grand Rapids Youth Symphony are things I had dreamed of, but never imagined they would present themselves as opportunities. Grand Rapids really feels like home, and I am deeply grateful for the chance to contribute and lead as a conductor, violinist, and teacher in such meaningful ways.

 

   

GRSMA: It must be surreal to conduct the youth symphony that you were a member of when you were in high school. How is that going so far?

 

JS: Yes, surreal, thrilled, and honored. I absolutely love it. I feel a deep sense of duty to foster a great experience for current students. The GRYS students are amazing. Really. Come watch them rehearse and hear them perform. They have energy, creativity, drive, and passion. They are hardworking, eager, collaborative, empathetic, and hilarious. They love this music and the chance to create it together. So much of my love for orchestral music was born from my GRYS experiences. I aspire to pay it forward with great programming, inspired rehearsals, and excellent opportunities in our community. Our fall concert featured a challenging program of Verdi's "Nabucco" Overture and Tchaikovsky's complete Symphony No. 5. They performed really well, and I am excited for our upcoming season performances in February and May! https://www.grsymphony.org/concerts-and-tickets/event/5557812

 

GRSMA: You moved back to Grand Rapids a few years ago. Is everything the same as you remembered, or have there been changes that you have noticed?

 

JS: Not at all. Grand Rapids is a different city than the one I remember growing up in. It has grown and become more vibrant, creative, arts focused, and "big city" than what I remember in my youth. The art scene, the food scene, the welcome to new ideas, and diversification of commerce...it feels bigger and alive. Plus, the natural beauty and four seasons are hard to beat. My wife and I have both lived in larger US cities (Seattle, Denver, etc.) and love the big city amenities with manageable traffic, logistics, and access. We echo Ben Rector's words from a recent GRS concert, "Grand Rapids punches way above its weight class!" 

 

 

GRSMA: As the conductor of the Grand Rapids Youth Symphony, what are your thoughts on inspiring the next generation of classical musicians?

 

JS: As John Varineau once said, the real mission of the GRYS is to "get kids geeked out on classical music." I love that and I love doing that. I'm a card-carrying classical music geek myself and take great pride in geeking out others. I believe strongly that our student musicians need two things: 1) that you deeply care for them, and 2) that you will challenge them. GRYS is a special place where we undertake professional level repertoire challenges in a community that celebrates hard work, teamwork, risk taking, and companionship. We cheer each other on towards greatness knowing that its members will become excellent in whatever they pursue: music, business, medicine, law, etc. I hope to inspire the next generation to not only geek out on classical music but love the process of creating it and sharing it with their community.

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GRSMA: Recently you led the Grand Rapids Symphony in several concerts. What was that experience like, standing in front of the hometown team and all?

 

JS: Yes, what fun! It was a deep thrill, also with a small side of terror. So many of my childhood heros were on stage! I had to pinch myself a number of times in the score preparation, rehearsal, and performance. I have such respect for the consummate professionalism of the Grand Rapids Symphony members. They sound spectacular in any scenario and really know how to respond to the environment, whether it be an outreach Access to Music performance, a school side-by-side, a pops fundraising event, a production of "The Nutcracker" in the pit, or a Masterworks series event in DeVos Hall. It was also great fun to work with musicians who have nearly everything prepared from the downbeat and need just a few clarifications, transitions, and wishes to launch the piece into orbit. I am such a fan of the Grand Rapids Symphony whether in the audience, playing in the section, or conducting from the podium.

 

 

GRSMA: Are there any upcoming Grand Rapids Symphony concerts that you look forward to attending, or would recommend that your students experience? 

 

JS: Yes! There are so many great performances to choose from this season. I am working to start a tradition where GRYS students attend at least one performance together every GRYS concert cycle. We had many students come out to Dvorak's "New World" Symphony this fall before we will perform it in February. Personally, I am really looking forward to Mahler's Sixth Symphony this winter. Half the orchestra looked at me like I was crazy when I explained about the hammer thing. Now they're hooked and will be there. And, my mother-in-law and I plan to be singing "Jolene" together at the Dolly Parton show this spring. We're fans! 

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GRSMA: The programming for this season’s Grand Rapids Youth Symphony is quite ambitious, with standard orchestral literature by Brahms, Dvorak, Shostakovich, and Tchaikovsky. How do you inspire young players to rise to the occasion?

 

JS: Yes, this year's repertoire is a challenge on purpose. First, I believe students need to experience this repertoire. They need to experience top-level repertoire not easily accessible in school program ensembles. For so many students, it is their first introduction to these classic works, and so many of them provide great parts to all the players in the ensemble. As a student, I remember seeing "Property of Grand Rapids Symphony" on the bowed master copies of our GRYS repertoire. Knowing I was playing the same bowings as my teacher gave me great pride. Plus, we even got to see some of the concertmaster's fingering solutions and shifting plans. While the repertoire challenge is great, I only program a stretch if I have a plan for how to break it down into manageable skills and build it up. To help, GRYS has two sectional experiences with GRS musicians each concert cycle. Additionally, several GRS members as well as GVSU faculty have sat in rehearsal sections to provide additional mentorship, coaching, and experience. I find students will rise to the challenge if there is an inspired plan from the podium to help them incrementally get there.

 

 

GRSMA: We cannot imagine that you have any spare time, but do you have any hobbies or activities that you enjoy for relaxation?

 

JS: I have learned that in order to do one thing well you need a thing that is not your main thing. First and foremost my real job is being Dad to Lily (5.5 years old), Max (4 years old), and Gabe (4 years old). They have changed my world in the best of ways and humble me daily. My wife and I love to travel, cook, and spend time with friends. As a family, summer is usually when we have a chance to breathe life into our Michigan hobbies of hiking, camping (Nordhouse Dunes is amazing but don't tell anyone else!), and jumping waves in Lake Michigan every chance we get. Michigan with all of its natural beauty is such a gem! Personally, I love running. It has always been my go-to "other thing." My brother and I ran the Pictured Rocks Trail last summer. I hope to make a River Bank Run comeback again soon too.

 

 

GRSMA: What are the most memorable moments that you have experienced as a conductor?

 

JS: There are many memorable moments as a conductor for a wide mix of reasons! Here are just a few: Conducting the National Repertory Orchestra in the "William Tell" Overture - so many of these friends and colleagues now sit in professional orchestras around the country, Conducting the Afghan National Youth Orchestra in a concert at the US Embassy Kabul in 2013 - a mix of eastern and western instruments where the act of even being a musician was a risk, Conducting the Campamento Nacional Youth Orchestra in Tegucigalpa, Honduras in 2014 - quickly learning how to rehearse in Spanish with members of the Orchestra of the Americas, Conducting the 2024 Michigan All-State Orchestra - a homecoming with cherished former students in the roster, Conducting the GRS 2025 Bravo Gala - a pops folder full of smiles, and of course conducting the downbeat of the first Grand Rapids Youth Symphony rehearsal at our fall retreat - both a return and a beginning. Music causes us to move, think, question, and feel. Leading as a conductor in a wide range of cultural, age, and player background scenarios has provided a chance to engage with each of these elements in deeply meaningful ways.

 

 

GRSMA: Is there anything else that you wish to share?

 

JS: Yes, I have been thinking about something the past few months. I have been a violin section member, substitute player, and conductor in a range of orchestras. Some in Michigan, some in other states, some in other countries. Returning to Grand Rapids, I have been so struck by the genuine welcome, encouragement, and inspiration of Grand Rapids musicians. This does not happen by accident. There is intentional community, support, and enjoyment here. There is something special, rooted, nourished, and good here. I hope to continue this tradition and give other newcomers to the professional music scene as warm a welcome as others have given to me.

 

GRSMA: Thank you, Joel Schut, for these thoughtful replies to our questions. Welcome home!

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